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How to glue T&G boards the correct way

There seems to be some strange advice around on how to glue T&G boards when using the 'floating installation' method.

Recently we have seen how wrongly applying the PVAC wood glue can cause problems - in the short and long run - where the adhesive was applied on the underlayment in front of the already installed row of boards with the idea that installing the next row would 'scoop' up enough glue to bond the boards together..... Read more

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Comments

Desmac

I've laid a solid wood floor on Elastilon (strong). The Elastilon guide states that only the end of each plank should be glued. this is at odds with you advice. can you clarify please?

Karin H.

Hi Desmac

Elastilon is a self-adhesive underlayment and the product instruction should be followed.

On all other normal underlayments all the T&G's should be glued indeed.

Hope this helps
Wood You Like Ltd

Jeffrey Duncan

Had 5/8" floating engineered maple installed. Instructions say to use T&G glue, but I found out it was NOT used during the installation. It has now been about 5 months and the laminate layer is cupping and un-adhering to the lower portion of the plank on some boards. Is this just defective flooring or could it be a result of the glue not being used.
Thanks!

Karin H.

Hi Jeffrey

Delaminating is due to failing bonding between toplayer and backing and when this happens it is normally covered in the guarantee of the product.
Has nothing to do with not glueing the T&G's together.

You should contact the company your bought the product from and inform them of the problem. They must send someone out to check the problem.

Hope this helps

At 06:34 27/02/2009, you wrote:

Prof Beton

I've laid a solid wood floor on strong. The Elastilon guide states that only the end of each plank should be glued. this is at odds with you advice. can you clarify please?

Karin H.

Hi there

I think you are confusing two things here: installing floating (which needs all the T&G's glued correctly) and installing using the self-adhesive mat from Elastilon which bond the back of the whole board to the mat.

If you use the Elastilon mat, follow their instructions, they are there for a reason

Kind Regards
Wood You Like Ltd
Karin Hermans

Matt D

Hi I'm planning on laying mixed width oak boards ranging from 8-12" wide, and would like to know if this approach is suitable for wide boards? I'm laying onto a tiled floor (ceramic) so ideally would want to lay a DPM and Underlay then glue the T&G. I've heard some suggestions that wide boards should be glued or nailed, but would prefer floating it if possible? TheArea is about 8m x 4m aprox.

Thanks

Matt

Karin H.

Hi Matt

Those are very wide boards indeed! 200 - 300mm in solid is not really recommended, we normally advice is stay below the 160mm wide (6") to avoid problems.
For wider boards we would use wood-engineered boards.

The installation method is not really the issue, wood works no matter which method you use. I would not recommend using the floating method here, but your tiled floor does not allow fully bonding either. Have you considered Elastilon self-adhesive underlayment?

All in all, if possible I would recommend switching to wood-engineered boards if your heart is set on wide boards.

Hope this helps
Wood You Like Ltd

Matt D

Thanks Karin,

The saw mill has already started preping the order now, so going to have to make do with the width. I didn't really want the engineered boards, as they tend to be short boards with a vaneer of real wood on it. The company I've ordered from offers boards which are very long (2m plus), which appealed to me from a cosmetic point. The mill assures me that their wood is as stable as most slimmer boards, so I hope it doesn't bite me on the arse down the road!

thanks for your advice. I had looked at the sticky underlay before I stumbled across your site.

Duane

Hi i am thinking of laying down some solid oak wood flooring. It will be going down on 18mm chipboard flooring, as the chipboard is not that strong can it even be nailed down with the secret screws or will they just pull out or can it even be glued or must i leave it floating. your help will be must appreciated.

Karin H.

Hi Duane

Thank you for your question. Some solid floors can only be nailed or glued down, and both methods are a big problem when there's chipboard involved.

What size has you solid floor? thickness, width and length we would like to know to see if floating is possible or if you need an alternative such as Elastilon self-adhesive underlayment.

Kind Regards
Wood You Like Ltd

Duane Russell

The oak flooring i will buy will be 18mm or 22mm and comes in different lengths the longest at 1800mm the shortest at 400mm
thank you for your help Duane

Duane Russell

sorry i forgot to say they are the wood is 90mm wide

Karin H.

Hi Duane

That last bit is a rather most important piece of information. 90mm is too narrow for boards to be installed floating. Since there's also chipboard involved, nailing and fully bonding is out of the question.

Elastilon self-adhesive underlayment is your best bet.

Hope this helps

Wood You Like Ltd

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